Tuesday, March 11, 2014

Male To Female Breast Development - Hormone Therapy and Augmentation

DISCLAIMER: Some people post their hormone dosages in the comments. These are their dosages and should not be looked at as suggestions. The amount of estrogen and testosterone blocking medications that are prescribed can vary according to number of factors (age, health, etc.) and the ONLY way to get on a safe and effective regimen is to consult a doctor!


Breast development is without question an exciting part of transition. I feel fairly comfortable saying that most trans women look forward to having their own real breasts but need to stress (as I try to always do) the need to have realistic expectations.

Hormone Replacement Therapy for Trans Women

The first thing to know is that breast development varies a great deal from person to person. Also while both age and genetics play a big role in how big they will get, generally speaking trans women can expect to be smaller then their closest female relatives (I was told a cup size smaller).

Besides the actual physical size of the breast, perception must be taken into consideration as well. The fact that the rib cage for the average anatomical male after puberty is bigger then it is for females means if you visually compare the two people with similar height, weight and bra size; one cissexual and one transsexual, the cissexual woman's breasts will generally appear larger. Also remember breast size in cissexual women varies greatly and not all cis woman have large breasts. I have small breasts and well... I like them.

I have also written a few posts about hormone therapy and the risks associated with it as well. PLEASE READ THESE! I get a lot of questions and comments about self medicating and I tell my readers over and over not to. These medications are dangerous!

Some other things I want to point out and stress:
  • Breast development takes time. Hormone therapy induces puberty and just like with cissexual women puberty is a process that takes years, not months. It is certainly not something that happens over night.
  • Taking more estrogen than is proscribed will not speed up the process. This is VERY DANGEROUS! You will need your blood work checked for possible problems. Like I said, I have written am entire article about the risks associated with HRT but a few of the major ones include: blood clots, prolactinoma (tumor of the pituitary gland), and possible increased risk of heart attack and stroke. There are also major risks with taking Spironolactone as it is a diuretic. Bottom line, talk to your doctor.
  • Most women have uneven breast development, it is normal. Also, your breasts may not develop at the same rate. While this unevenness is usually not drastic it can be noticeable. For me my left breast is probably a full cup size bigger than my right. Expect it and don't freak out.
  • HRT does not only effect breast growth!
This last point is important to realize because I get a lot of questions from cross dressers and non-transsexual types who just want to take hormones to grow breasts. This is probably not an option. Hormones effect your entire body, you physical appearance, your mood, and most importantly you body chemistry. If your motivation is to simply grow breasts than I strongly caution you NOT to use hormones. Also, if you are think that want to have breasts to increase sexual pleasure, one of the side effects of HRT is decreased libido.

Lastly, you can't just put on a shirt and hide these things... Remember, HRT causes irreversible full body changes, not simply breast growth. If you still think this is right for you I will offer the same advice I offer everyone, please talk to your doctor.

Breast Augmentation Surgery

Once development slows or stops some people may still desire breast augmentation surgery. The thing to know about this is that it is generally a good idea to put off any augmentation surgery until after hormone induced breast development is completed. There are quite a few reasons for this but here are the most important:
  • Breast development happens in spurts over a course of years! Give them a chance to grow.
  • Breast development does not happen evenly... One breast may seem way smaller and but given time, it probably will catch up. Note that uneven breast size is normal, even in cissexual women.
  • Breasts implants look best and most realistic when they are placed behind existing breast tissue.
  • If augmentation is preformed before breast development is finished and you have additional breast growth after surgery, you run the risk of very unnatural or even deformed looking breasts.
Lastly, breast augmentation is included in the standards of care for transgender individuals but does not require the same exact criteria as SRS.

Have you had surgery? If so I would love for you to tell us about your results and experience below in the comments:
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  1. Hi
    I am a 51 yr old transwoman. I had breast augmentaion 1 year ago prior to starting on hormone treatment. The implants were a textured cohesive gell placed under the muscle.
    The fact is for transwomen who start their transition later in life it is unlikely that they will experience enough breast growth through hormone intervention alone. Whilst in an ideal world it is always best to 'wait and see'I was not prepared to wait for a year to get referred for hormones and then wait another 2 years to see what the effect might be. Accordingly I consulted with several surgeons who are specialists in this area and sought out the best advice possible. Cognisent of the risks and realistic about the outcome I elected to go for surgery. My implants are small (325gram) and resulted in a c cup. The appearance of my breasts is good, if somewhat 'pert' for a lady of my age. I had no post opperative pain but did get a minor infection that cleared up after 72 hours on antibiotics. As the implants are beneath the muscle you need to change the way you lift heavy objects which at first is slightly uncomfortable. Hormone therapy will soften the visual transition between the breasts and the torso. Interestingly after my breast implant surgery my testosterone levels dropped sponaneously which has yet to be explained!!

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    1. Oh..But I hope you still enjoying having your boobies. :)

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    2. Err ngative miss captain! My mentor (64 yr old trans woman) started HRT in her late 50s and her breasts have grown viciously. shes at about a D right now. she was being overdosed on estradiol too though which has alot to do with it. she has larger breasts than me or any of my young trans friends have (Im 23) . This goes to show that starting at a younger age really doesnt have as much to do with it as some of us speculate.

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    3. How big can the boobs grow ? Can a transexual woman become pregnant

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    4. No. When a male has developed in the womb of the mom, they will have a penis and testicles. The testicles (balls) are the male equivalant of the ovaries. Males won't have their male reproductive organs transformed into the female womb ovaries, etc. by hormones. This simply doesn't happen. there are reports / rumors of female reproductive organ transplants but all of the stories end that it failed and often they indicate the person has died from complications. Chances are these are simply urban transsexual myths. So no a true male physical body is not going to become a viable reproductive female. However there are intersex individuals (hermaphrodites) that have both genitalia or a mix, it might be possible that a percentage of them could have the reproductive system to become viably reproductive but I have never seen anything on that. As to breast growth it depends on the individual but the rule of thumb is most will be a bit smaller than their sisters or birth mother.

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    5. Actually, scientists in Sweden state that us transsexual women can become pregnant. The method is not perfected, however, we should be able to carry children by 2020. The process is uterus transplant, invetro fertilization, and C- section delivery. Also, if you froze sperm, using a donor egg, you can have your own biological child. They want transplant recipients to receive the uterus from a close relative, utetus doesn't degenerate with age, so it can come from post menopausal women, even your mom.

      Look it up and check it out.

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  2. I'm a 40-something transwoman who had my augmentation done in March. My Dr. was really amazing and the experience was very positive.

    I think you are totally spot on with this article. I would add that one of the hardest things to hang onto with regards to transition is PATIENCE. It's easy to get caught up with the changes that are happening and automatically want MORE, MORE, MORE. Waiting until you have "maxed out" your natural breast growth via HRT is, I think, imperative. I've always been told that one should be on a consistent HRT program for at least two years before even thinking about implants. I had been on injectables for three years with average growth. I moved to a new city and started seeing a new Dr. who put me on patches. I stayed with the patches for about 5 months, but wasn't happy with the results, so I opted to go back to injections and I had a MAJOR growth spurt after a couple of months of shots, so again I agree with the statement that breast development can happen in spurts over a number of years, so never stop believing. I had a small b-cup when I went in for my procedure and the results are really great and most importantly, really natural looking. The whole point of this is to look as natural as possible, right? If you go ahead and get implants without all the breast tissue that you can get, your results will likely suffer. So using PATIENCE as a mantra can be a big help.

    One thing I would recommend as well, is to find a Dr. that has had experience with transwomen. I went to several Dr's and was very disappointed with most as they weren't very knowledgeable about the trans body. So, doing your research, finding someone with trans experience, but most importantly, someone you trust is of the utmost importance.

    My Dr. and I shared common opinions when it came to size of my breasts. I wanted to be just a touch over what the average size for my height & weight would be. I didn't want to look ridiculously over sized, so I went with a "full c-cup" It was a 400 cc, silicone implant, placed under the muscle with underarm incisions. My recovery was totally uncomplicated. I stayed pretty well "hopped up" for a few days, so all was well, at least for me. Having them under the muscle (which is TOTALLY recommended) meant that it will take a while (maybe 6 mos to a year) for the muscles to stretch and the breasts to "settle in" totally. I have to say though, I've had no major pain (just a lil pressure).

    One thing I want to address is that there are a lot of tgirl's that go in with quite unrealistic and almost"fantasy"expectations when it comes to thier breast size. Bigger isn't always better! My Dr had the best thought I had heard on that subject when he said..."As a transwoman, you will most likely walk around with a target on your back. Why do you want a target on your front, as well?" Staying within an basic average with your height & weight proportions (with maybe going just a tad over, if you like) is likely going to make you much happier with your implants. Besides, if you wanna pump them up, go get yourself a good push-up bra and you will be all set.

    Great article. I really enjoyed it!

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    1. If you don't mind me asking ma'am. What country you had your implants?
      I am in the middle of getting mine. Sort of deciding to get it done from Thailand.

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    2. Also most doctors are opportunistic and will manipulate you with information that will inspire you to use their services. I pass all day and go stealth at work ive been transitioning since my teens yet Dr. Spiegal told me I basically needed FFS ... Its hilarious. But peoples body dysmorphic disorders and need for instant gratification is a plastuc surgeons gold mine. As for me? I just want an eye lift because Im sick of looking like Hellen Hunt! LOL

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  3. I am approaching 60 and want breast implants to increase the pleasure from dressing. I have been told that I cannot get implants without having at least 6 months of HRT. Being overweight I do have quite a bit of breast tissue so is there a Dr out there who will perform the op without a plan for SRS

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    1. You sound like a transvestite, who in no way needs implants. " increase pleasure from ,"dressing", that is not a transexual way, term. .. that kindaraised a flag to me..

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    2. Hi sounds like you and me are in the same boat there. I have been a cross dresser since child hood hated it and loved it felt guilty and not guilty over it at times.Im in my late 50's and always wanted boobs,for me its a way of life not "some stupin phrise im going through". When im dressed 98% of the time its natural to me.If you do find a dr out there who would do this op. please please tell me so I can be full fill my goal before I die.

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    3. You are not TS ! For us transgender women getting breasts is about feeling whole as a person and not about getting pleasure from dressing. I don't think you need breast implants, if you already have some breasts due to weight then be happy with them. I'm sorry if I sound rude or negative but it just comes across as making fun of transgender women.

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    4. i agree with you it is like making fun of us i am 23 mtf on hrt sprio200mg a day estro 10 mg 100mg progest a day and i would say i am a 36A @ almost a yr

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    5. I totally agree. I am 66 and would not like to transgender but I crossdress and would love to have a C Cup. I read these articles about estrogen and patches etc but havent the nerve the try them. I feel exactly the same as most transgenders because it is not just about pleasure it is about being a women whilst also being a man. I supposed that you could regard me as a SheMale (What an awful word) but I currently do not feel fulfilled wanting to be neither a full man nor a full women. I want that something in between which is why I have crossdressed all of my life. I love women and do not want a relationship with a man simply I would like breasts and look nice feel nice when I cross dress for my women. Does anyone feel the same?

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    6. I think a lot of people feel the way you do.

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    7. I don't know that I am surprised, but it is somewhat odd to see how people who class themselves as transgender criticize someone who apparently is a transvestite because of "his" desire to have feminine breast shape.


      You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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    8. I know from my perspective I try not to criticize. One thing I do see in our community is that many people feel the need to take on the role of gender police. It is wrong for sure. What I think is important is to just try to help our cross dressing friends that actually changing there body is very risky and if there motivation is to play and have fun is it worth risking their lives? If someone is willing to take that risk than I offer the same advice to them I do to anyone. talk to a doctor and do it right.

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    9. For the most part I have never seen so many snobby hypocritical bunch than transsexuals on hrt. So unaccepting of anyone's state of being unless they too are on the hormones and went through all the channels they had to. Its a great sisterhood but anyone outside of the box seems to be an intruder. When I start I hope I don't become so closed minded. If a person has been crossdressing for 20 years everyday, do you think its a fetish? Everyone's circumstances are different and labeling doesn't help, either does not answering questions because they don't fit your required label.

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    10. I think that is the point. We arent here (or at least we shouldn't be here) to enforce anything. Unless you are a therapist or a doctor you have no right to say whether HRT is right for anyone. What is is import is to sharw info with all types of trans women so they can gauge the risks verses rewards. The blaring elephant in the room is as t for men who cross dress (and i mean that for what it is... i am not saying all people who cross drwss are men or must identify as such, just the ones that do srlf identify that way), physically altering their body for sexual gratification will probably not give them thevredults they want... quite possibly the complete opposite.

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    11. I think it's a little bit hypocritical to impose limits on another while accepting none for one's self.

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  4. I m a 19 yrs boy bt i feeling like girl trapped in me, am i transexual?

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    1. Transexual is the term for trans people when they have a sex change or if they feel they are a woman trapped in a man's body. I consider myself a transexual female. Get a coucellar first and join trans groups for support to help you out first don't rush into it. You will know when you are comfortable and ready if you decide to start HRTS and start transitioning.

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  5. I have been on Estradiol for 7 months and spironolactone almost 2 months. I have a good amount of breast tissue on my left side I'd say an AA if not close to A cup, however on my right side I have NOTHING. Completely flat not even the slightest hint of puffy nipple or anything. I moved states and changed jobs so I wot have insurance for another month or so but I feel like this is completely crazy I understand a little difference but 1 boob only!? Is it possible my right side is like a dud and won't ever grow? It's really causing me to have like emotional psyche issues (even more than we have! Lol) thoughts?

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    1. how much estradiol per day and pill or patch also what amount of spironolactone per day

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    2. the easiest way to know is consulting the huge amount of info in internet.

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    3. lol... yeah, it's a 'milk' dud ; )

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  6. I have a close friend who is transitioning and seems lately to be very depressed by the slow results of her ongoing hrt. I don't know how to help her feel better about herself and her body or what to say to comfort her. I've done a lot of research to try and understand what she's feeling but i still feel lost and in the way trying to help. any advice?

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    1. Just be there for her. There are so many factors that play into how much HRT works or how effective it will even be: age, health, genes, current physiology... Unfortunately there is no magic pill.

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  7. i am 22 age ... 62 kg weight, 171height..
    my skin is smooth i don't have beard and no hair in my body.. i feel i am women i want to take hormone. can i get hormone by online

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    1. Please please please see a doctor about HRT!

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    2. like Katherine said please consult with a doctor as you can really harm yourself by self medicating! butttt to answer your question yes yes you can get them online I spent hours finding a site that actually sold them they were shipped from japan lol I took them for a month until I finally had my appointment for hrt if you are going to self medicate with estrogen at the very least tell your docter so he or she can do the proper tests on your body. Also my insurance blue cross blue shield covers my hormones I pay $5.00 each for estrogen and t blockers a lot cheaper than $60 plus shipping and handling a month

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  8. Hi my name is Sara. I am transgendered. I was wondering if I can get breast implants without having HRT at all. I don't want HRT or SRS just breast augmentations and feminizing surgery. What do I need to know about my situation.

    Thank you so much ∞Sara∞

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    1. You do not need to have SRS to have a breast augmentation however I would suggest you speak to a surgeon for specifics. I do know that your breasts will look more natural if you have natural breast tissue to enhance.

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    2. Thank you for answering. I do understand that it can be hard to get up to larger sizes if you haven't had HRT but I figured since I'll a little cubby I could pay for liposuction and breast augmentations I could make some room for silicone breasts. I don't know I guess I'm just looking for ideas, suggestions, and more information.

      I don't want to get HRT because I don't want my penis or testicles to lose size or function and from what I hear that will happen. Is that right?

      Thank you ∞Sara∞

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  9. hi i am 49 and my breast are growig fine;i have been on hrt for 1 year and have a b cup i love them to and still growing

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  10. Hi ladies, I'm on 4mgs a day, 9 months in I'm a 36b just keep going, I saw the lady that is at one, with nothing going on the other, I have to go through this alone, but It is worth it, when you put on a mini skirt, and matching blouse, and do not need implants, you'll see, but I recommend- a lot- you see the dr, and get that help! good luck!!!

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    1. Hi, 4mg of what? I am disapointed by my aereola developement. Have yours gotten bigger?

      Chrissy

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  11. Hello I am 64 and started my transition in aug of 2011 and started on hrt in feb 2012 I am on estridol sprolacton, porgesterone,finesteride I have been on 5 pills of 1mg and twice patches of estrodioal and the breast growth has not been really forth coming this month I started injections once a month my question is have I started way to late can I expect much growth and knowing that it takes time I am reslly trying to patient but I have been waiting 50 years for this at my age when will I know when I have reached max benefit from the hormones as far as breast growth rebecca

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    1. It really is hard to say. I understand the frustration but really only time will tell. Breast development takes years not months so try to be patient. Also note that there are no maricle shortcuts. The best advice is that you need to have realistic expectations and keep the lines of communication open with your doctor.

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  12. Hello, I'm a young transgender woman, 16, and I just started the estradiol patches this Thursday and I wanted to see if anyone had personal experiences on the patch? How effective was it? How long it took to see changes? I also was wondering if it would be bad to use more than one patch per week? I'm prescribed to switch my patch every week but if I we're to wear more than one patch would it increase my hormone levels and allow the feminizing process to speed up? Any advice would be nice. Thank you!

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    2. Estrogen can NOT be converted to testosterone! The enzyme aromatase can convert excess testosterone into estrogen, but it can't convert estrogen into testosterone, and there is no enzyme in our bodies that can. I'm in no way condoning taking more estrogen than what is prescribed or recommended, but the statement that estrogen can be converted into testosterone is totally false.

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    3. I have removed my comment but yest... Do not self medicate!

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    4. You only have so many Estrogen receptors in your body. Once they are all fully bound with Estrogen, any excess in your body is wasted and just flushed away. The secret is to find the maximum dose that your body can bind and that takes blood tests and consultation with a trained and fully qualified endocrinologist. Just bumping up the dose could just be over straining your body for no benefit. Most of us only get one shot at transition - do it safely!

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    5. please take into consideration that having upping your estrogen patch as well as oral does will not make the process go any faster it could actually slow it down! so just stick to the does you were prescribed. I've been on hrt for about a year and half and i'm a full 38b full breast development takes up to 5 yrs im 23 btw so your lucky your starting at such a young age!

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  14. im a 37 yo transvestite still in closet and wanna develop breasts now for the future , a few freinds take female contraception pills and started to develop breasts, i hav been taking 2 pills a day for last month and nipples becomming realy sensitive had blood tests for other illness but every thing heading in rite direction , skin seems softer and bodily hair slowing in growth , is the sensitive nipples and aching breasts a concern i should talk to gp about ??

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    1. My first suggestion is you talk to your doctor about getting on a regulated hormone regimen as opposed to trying to do it yourself. I don't mean to sound like a broken record but this stuff can KILL YOU!!!

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  15. I'm a 46yrs transvestite still in closet(wanting and planning to come out) and wanna develop breasts now for the future; I have been taking contraception pills but would like more info which doctors can one see and trust for HRT treatments and probably later a breast augmentation which I would avoid if I could grow naturally my breasts.

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  16. Hi...my name is yoannah..im a 25 yr.old transexual girl..i have been on hormones for about 5 years now the first few were real crazy i was getting great results but the drugs and alchole were killing the estradiol..thank god iam now a year and 4 months clean frm drugs..i have been on estardiol 8mg-10mg a day and 200mg of spirnolactone daily..i have little breast growth..barley a small A-cup..lol.but iam also lactating..yes milk comes out my boobies..lol..i want to switch back to injections there amazing! But just a bit pricey! Ive also had 2 laser facial hair removal sessions great results but need more for it to b permanate..but you gota b patient! And always talk to a doctor first! All i can say is that HRT really changes your mind and body to the true woman thats inside you..i highly.recomend it! Good luck girls! And keep ya head up!:)

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  17. I started changing sex in my early twenties and ended up with a C cup. Before my operation I had become friendly with a firefighter and he eventually intoduced me to the other guys at his station and I became very friendly with them (although that's another story!). After the operation they clubbed together to pay for implants and I went to a DD. Later on I started dating a policeman and he was very much a tit man and as I always wanted big tits we researched and discovered polypropylene breast enlargement, A.K.A. string implants. These were meant for girls in the sex indux=stry who wanted enormous breasts and they can grow to a ridiculously large size. They have now banned but I did get them when they were available and had them removed when I reached a K cup. I now take a KK and although they are probably too big I and my hausband are very happy with them and they play a big part in our sex life. They give me a very voluptious figure and I don't look freakish. I have heard about other transsexuals with huge breasts due to implants although somebody told me of one sex change girl they knew who had a massive pair without any implants at all.

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    1. My friend had the string implants too, she's got huge tits. Wouldn't mind hearing the story about the firemen, always had a thing about them.

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  18. Hi I am 47 just started hrt how long before I should notes any brest groth or any change in my boady

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    1. It really depends on a lot of things. Like every girl, development happens in spurts over a course of a few years.

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  19. hi im katie 37 cd and am thinking of takeing hormones becouss i want to have breasts right now i dont dont dress all the time do to my job. but when i am dressd up i feal so much better it jut feals like i am now nomell moor happyer so i asked my famly doc what hormones i need to take so i can start my transition so i can be who i am n the inside as well as the out. most of my frinds know that i m a cd and i just wnt to be happy i do know its notgoing to happin over night im thinking i would like to see some changes in about a 6 mon to a year

    my famly doc is sending me for blood test so i am going to get it dunn firt thing satdeday morrnig yeaaaaa im so happy lol. any throughts ?

    sorry about my spelling thanks.

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  20. Cool. I wanting to do the same thing. My reason are totally different. I try looking for a female. Nope, noy happying. So If do the ideals everyone else is doing. I wouldn't anyone.

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  21. Hi everyone, My name is Kara Lynn and I am a 31 y/o Transgender women. I read a lot of posts on here concerning hormone therapy and what is best to do in certain situations. I have been on HRT for 1 1/2 years now. Through this amount of time I have been closely monitored with my endocrinologist and my primary care physician. I know that not everyone has the ability to see a doctor, that's understandable. I really believe before you do any surgeries or hormones that you go to a professional therapist that specializes in transgendered. Doing this will help you understand what it is and what it means and help you understand the feelings you are having. A lot of people confuse transgender with cross dressing with transsexual and many other terms out there. In all actuality its not all the same and you need to understand this. I have seen a lot of people mistake fetish for true meaning. Understand what you want and this will help you deciding what it is you truly need. Understanding your options, Hormones are dangerous and the effects can be irreversible. Taken incorrectly can cause death. PATIENCE is the key. Understanding yourself is KEY. See your therapist, go to groups, see a doctor. Every 6 months I go back to my endo and we review the blood tests and decide if I need to increase dosage. I am currently on 4mg Estadiol Oral each day and 1.25 mg Finasteride per day.

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  22. Hiii I Wanted To Start My Transition When I Turn 18 I'm Am 16 Now How Long Does It Take Before I Start To Look Cunt Or Like A Woman Like What's The Average Amount Of Time I Know Everybody Body Is Different And What All Will The Hormones Grow And I Was Think I Should Moan For At Least 3-4 Years Then Start To Get My Surgeries Thanks

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    1. Look Cunt? Umm... hope that was a typo but puberty takes how ever long it takes. A couple of years???

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    2. I have been on Hormones for 2 1/2 years and the thing that everyone has emphasized is SO true...this is a process that takes TIME! I hate it because I am one of the most impulsive and impatient (sometimes) people you would ever meet. I have managed to get a full "A" cup and slowly headed to a "B". As far as looking "CUNT"...my dear we are transgendered women. Whether we eventually have the SRS or not we will always remain somewhat clockable (unless you find one hell of a surgeon)! Frankly speaking I am proud of how far the HRT has brought me without any surgeries. I can honestly say I've gotten lucky. The earlier you can start the better. If you are 16 you are still in male puberty. The average male stays in puberty until about age 21. If you could see a doctor and start now, you would possibly have a better chance at appearing more feminine! Good luck on your journey to becoming a lady. PS. brush up on your edicate a little, a true lady would never refer to oneself as cunt! She may say things such as she looks fierce, appealing to the eye, beautiful, vivacious, BUT NEVER CUNT! XOXO and again good luck!

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    3. The term looking cunt in the glbtq community means looking fem,

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  24. Hello I am Della. 56 Started hormones this week. Will there be any changes in the next few months. If so what and when will I notice changes in my breast. thanks you Della

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  25. Hey. I started my pills n shot this month and I'm growing already. My nipple are extra sensitive and begining to poke out. I'm even having something come out the nipple mayb milk idk. I also excerise a lot to get my shape just right. My hips r spreading. N I really worry that my breast might get huge. I want a d cup but my mom n sister have double d's. So I'm not sure how big they will get. But I looked into info for surgery in mexico. I heard grest dr. Cheaper and great resultes. Smooches and any advice will b great.

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  27. Hey I'm 21 been wantin to be a chick for some time now. Do I stand a chance in hell even lookin like one thou? I'm 6 ft my shoulders are bout 2 ft and some change wide I wear a size 13 shoe and I'm muscular bench 350 right now. Should I just stay gay/bi or do I stand a chance in lookin like a women?

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    1. Wanted to be a chick? Not sure I follow... That isn't exactly how this works. If you are saying you feel your body shape is preventing you from transitioning then I would say I know people who are over 6 foot, size 13 shoe who are beautiful.

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    2. Im 6ft tall size 12 shoe!! And not being conceited but I look good for my height and shoe size

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  28. The effects of HRT are really the luck of the draw.. I have been on HRT for over 15 years, (began at age 30), and have nothing.. absolutely zero results.. They just go right threw me like I'm eating candy.. The endo has experimented with different dosages and different types.. The blood levels are correct but still no response from my body.. He's perplexed and seems more disappointed then I am. I only stay on HRT cause it does make me feel more at peace, and I keep thinking maybe tomorrow they'll kick in.. So it's true when people say it all depends on your body's chemistry. The effects of HRT can run anywhere from very excellent to very poor.

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  29. I'm 60 and just starting HRT. I have been self medicating but decided it was unwise and dangerous. I'll also have much better results with the help of my MD and an endocrinologist. All I can do is try and make my physical self agree with my gender identity. I am looking forward to the anti-andorgens cuz I definetly do not want to be a man any longer hormonally.

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  30. How much does it cost for Implants?

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  31. Hai

    I'm 26 i just startd hrt 3 month before.. i got better result.
    my boobs enlarged to big size( befre hrt i have a cup size) last 7 years i am waring female dress.
    when i take hrt i got somany changes in my body.. i love it that...
    i am planning to do mtf surgery on next month

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  32. I'm a forty-eight-year-old, fit transwoman on the very minimum dose of of estradiol and no anti-androgen other than progesterone for ten days per month. The changes I've experienced in less than three months of HRT have been phenomenal and also frightening. I've developed A cup breasts and put on 3 inches around the hips. Despite the hip-size gain, I've lost five pounds--muscles vanishing by the hour it seems, and my skin has gotten very impossibly soft. The changes are noticeable and are happening faster than I'm prepared to deal with. Sometimes I look at myself and think, "I'm developing into a bag of flab. Why would I want to trade my toned male body for this?" But it's a superfluous question because I'm happy, and it feels right. Anyway, I think a lot of what is said about HRT is misinformation that just gets repeated over and over until it's accepted as fact, and the one-cup-size-smaller-than-female-family thing is one of those bits of misinformation. My mom and sisters are A and B cups, so I'm already in their range in less than three months, and I feel confident that I will pass them up over the course of transition.

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    1. I think to catagorize the information here as "misinformation" is a bit short sighted. If you have had great results I am happy for you but what site like this and other do is explain averages and what can typically be expected. It would be irresponsible of me to tell women they can expect HRT to help them develope large breasts simy because I know a couple of girls who have developed large breasts.. One case here and there does not make a trend and is certainly not typical. I know just as many woman who have had great results as I do who have had little to no breast growth. Everyone's body is different.

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    2. Well, I didn't categorized the information here as misinformation. I simply said that I think the oft-repeated but anecdotal statement that an mtf transgender will develop breasts one cup size smaller than her sister is misinformation.Furthermore, I neither think it responsible nor irresponsible for you or me to tell women what size breasts they can or can't expect. I only know a handful of transwomen, and I never stood them beside their sisters to get exact data. I've known a lot of sisters whose cup sizes differed by one or even two or three.

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  33. hello i am 24 right now but started doing research on the effects of hrt on the body since i was 16. and to say i am bi-gendered is a little strange but the feeling of being both male and female has always been who i am since birth also i do enjoy cross dressing but it just depends on how i feel honestly i am not sure what i should do anymore

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    1. the first thing is to talk to someone you trust. you need to see a doctor and a therapist about hrt.

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    2. i just want to feel comfortable in my own skin but nothing i have done seems to have helped much

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  34. Hi all,

    Im a woman trapped inside a guy. I am currently taking Fenugreek, for 2mths hoping to get breasts and milk with the addition of Bio Essence cream to get breasts but to no avail. Can anyone tell me where to get Estroferm, Prolactin and Progesterone pills in Singapore? Thank you lots.

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  35. A doctor... there is no safe way to do it without medical supervision. Estrogen can cause all kinds of complications. Please do not self medicate.

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  36. I am a 65 year old, married 45 years, but have been trapped as a male all my life. For 43 years I have been dressing, going out in public as female, shopping as female and making my doctor appointments for HRT as female. I have been ridiculed, banned from malls and shopping centers and escorted off properties because of my stature and physical characteristics. (6'5" and 225 lbs). Years ago however, I decided, if I want to be female, I will go boldly dressed as female into the public, despite the obvious read. Surprisingly, in 90% of all my public excursions (malls, restaurants, theaters, doctors offices, nail and beauty salons etc, I have been greeted as and treated as female with 'yes maam', 'can I help you maam' etc. I was on HRT for 6 years and wear a 38c padded bra, have had some development in the hips and thighs and have had many comments on my legs as 'gorgeous' or 'beautiful'. I have always worn dresses or skirts in public...never pants...and I am glad I do.

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  37. Hi; my name is Roxy. I am a 46 year old transgender female. I started my hormone therapy about five months ago. I love the effects the hormone are having on my body with transitioning me to a lady and my womanhood. I do not want to rush my breast development. I like the anticipation of waiting for them to grow on their own; it makes me feel like a teenage girl waiting for hers. I am only on 1 milligram of estradiol and 75 milligrams of spironolactone. My Dr had to stop the spirno. I had a big drop in blood pressure and a dangerous drop in my potassium levels. To help with the anticipation of my breast growth, I just wear breast forms.

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  38. I have an vagina that does not connect with my uterest. A over size clitoris.. I was raised male because my father wanted a boy. This was along time ago. But on puberty I began developing breasts and my body was growing along a female line.So they made me take male hormones However inwards I feel female. My question can I reverse the effects of the male hormones with organic herbs? Second my mother is dead,but my fater is alive,(at 91.). He is furious at my decision. Help!

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    1. Sounds like your are what is called intersex. You will need to talk to a doctor but I can tell you herbs arent going to be very effective. As far as what HRT can do that depends on a lot of factors. I earn you to talk to a Dr, especially given the fact you have female sexual organs already.

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    2. To all of you...I have desired to be a women since I was very little. Back in that time dressing as one, even thinking of becoming one was strictly taboo. Today in my mid 50's I find myself finally living the way I have always wanted. I am 2 months into HRT and will remain on it. I know it is a process that will continue at some level the rest of my life. To those that are on this thread and young ( under 30 ) you have no idea what us older individuals have gone through personally or within society. Today it is accepted by a vast amount of people and computers have opened up opportunities and eyes. Let others do as they choose, don't criticize them or you are no different than those who would of ganged up and beat people like us in the 70's. Peace, Lori

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  39. I have many transgendered friends men and women.M to F some took hormones and some didn't. There are to many factors to account for. One friend got implants in thialand no hormones. I have to admit they looked like a trainwreck.At first anyways but after 9 months hers look more realistic than all my friends on hrt and breast implants.Then I know a couple more that look just as good as the ones on hrt and implants. I can say Doctors in the U.S. probably wont get you the results you're looking for. Lots of other countries perform more augmentations on men and have been doing so for many years now.All the Trans women I know now go over seas to get their work done.It is a little over half the cost than here in the U.S. Remember though do your research before you go to avoid a botched job due to inexperience.A few other countries now no longer require the psyche evaluatioin. So the answer is yes you can get implants without hrt but you might or might not get the results you're looking for.A big risk considering you can't go back. But for anyone to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body is rediculous. Tatoos,piercings,whatever that's their decision for whatever reason. Will the public be accepting of you maybe not.You have to be strong mentally on any life changing decision we make or we will regret these decisions we make. Keep in mind we make decisions to benefit and make us happy. If you find your happiness in others then make your decisions wisely. As for myself I will be traveling overseas with a couple trans friends next year to get my implants.BTW I do have one friend that got implants but still lives as a man.He has worked with most of his co-workers for 20 years and gave gynecomastia as the reason for his breasts. He experiences very little ridecule or harassment with them.

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  40. Although I am not transgendered I found a great place for breast augmentation Dothan AL. I had minimal recovery and love my results. So many of these forums helped me transition and understand my new body. Feagin and Owen know what they are doing and I would suggest when you are ready (after your hormone therapy) giving them a look.

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  41. I'm a 60 year old fem male who went through a divorce a few years back, after which I began to explore the feminine side which I'd always felt within. Hesitant to jump into HRT, but wanting to express myself as feminine and desiring feminine breasts, I began taking an herbal approach with fenugreek and a few other complimentary herbs. After taking this approach for two years, they've worked pretty well filling out a 38 B bra. I am soooooo excited to have women's breasts. As stated above, because of my rib cage size, I would look better with C cup breasts. I'm coming into a bit of money soon and look forward to feminization facial surgery and augmenting my breasts. I am not a true transexual I guess, but still love feeling and appearing feminine. And here's something interesting. I have a girlfriend who loves the sex we have. I have yet to orgasm, rather, I love to experience her orgasms during intercourse and oral sex. I let her energy surge through me which is way more powerful than any male orgasm I ever experienced. Our individual sexuality is so much more complex and beautiful than the male/female dicotomy that we are told to believe. I love who I am as a whole; embracing the female and male energies that dance within my being. But mostly, I now love appearing very feminine, which is not to mistaken for faggy...very different. So good luck to all where ever you fall on the spectrum of the male to female journey.

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